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flacorps

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CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« on: February 08, 2010 04:26:47 PM »
He seems to be in the process of hacking up my book and using it to build his site:
http://sites.google.com/site/creditwrench/system/app/pages/recentChanges (PG7, PG10, Debt Help and Solutions).
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itsmeagain

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010 05:28:04 PM »
Copyright infringement?

flacorps

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010 05:36:09 PM »
Copyright infringement?

Could be fair use ... depends on where he goes with it...
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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010 06:05:08 PM »

Fair use does not include the lifting of substantial portions of a work, and he certainly can't claim the archival exception to justify his posting. He also has the problem of not providing appropriate reference to the author or acknowledgment of the copyright.

As I recall, he pulled this sort of thing on FlyingIFR and the Method

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010 01:07:05 AM »
Time to have a chat with a good IP attorney.

edit: actually... what does your publisher think of this?
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flacorps

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010 11:40:03 AM »
Time to have a chat with a good IP attorney.

edit: actually... what does your publisher think of this?

I am my publisher ... and I think I can leverage this ... not ready to lower the boom just yet.
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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010 10:03:17 AM »
Good Old Billie never had an original thought grace his meager Gray matter, and why should he when there is cut-and-paste?

Yes, he did plagiarize the Method a couple of years ago, then give me credit in 2 point type, then bad mouthed me as one of the "most dangerous teachers in America".

Consider it a compliment that he wishes he could have thought of what he copied. But he didn't, and that's why he copied it.
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flacorps

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010 11:31:36 AM »

Now he's claiming "fair use" and apparently he's going to be content with what he's already posted. I do come in for some gratuitous abuse, but who doesn't hate a lawyer?

I'm not going to get into a long-running "Uncle Normie" type feud with him. He's not a fit antagonist for leveraging the Hegelian dialectic ... for that I would need a collector.

Flyingifr ... there is a bit that troubles me on page 101 ... let me know if you want a credit for that.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/25443175/Debt-Hope-Down-and-Dirty-Survival-Strategies-Evaluation-Version-Complete
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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010 02:14:57 PM »
Didn't know they offered internet access to nursing home residents.

His Alzheimer's has obviously progessed since his last run-in with Flying. He could probably plow his pant's zipper over his own genitalia, and STILL manage to forget the whole thing occurred until the grocery store manager accuses him of stowing a bunch of Concord grapes in his pants.

Why ya'll picking on a poor, confused old man?

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010 07:55:27 PM »
I think Billy boy is sitting there drooling tied to a chair and Bernarda has taken over creditwrench.
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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010 12:17:58 AM »
Oi Vey......

When...... When........ WHEN will this an learn.......

I guess detectives and local police departments haven't been needing his consulting services lately so he's been bored and cut/copying again

(yes that's a true story he posted on DB)   

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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2010 08:40:34 PM »
I treated myself to a very very extended vacation, including from the internet, because.......well.....I could.  So, am just now reading this.

I stopped updating my Creditwrench blog some time ago for a number of reasons.  Not the least of which included my becoming aware of Mr. Bauers failing health.

I won't make excuses for the man's infamous propensity for plagarisim for personal gain.

At the same time, I won't kick a man when he's down.

Flacorps, I am not known for offering accolades, but I have gained tremendous respect for you over the years. Do what you think is right.

BTW, I am, once again checking PM's  ;D
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Re: CreditWrench is up to his old tricks
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010 10:44:20 AM »
Flacorps, I am not known for offering accolades, but I have gained tremendous respect for you over the years. Do what you think is right.

Thanks for the kudos. There are a handful of great people out there who keep the misinformation and disinformation down to a dull roar, and you're one of them.
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